1 00:00:04,039 --> 00:00:01,780 let me ask you another question that's 2 00:00:05,869 --> 00:00:04,049 directly relevant I think to the 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:05,879 documentary and that is Michael 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:08,610 sexuality what can you tell us about 5 00:00:15,849 --> 00:00:11,610 what he was interested in was he into 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:15,859 women was he into men what was women 7 00:00:23,090 --> 00:00:20,490 definitely women and can you we've had 8 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:23,100 them do that in conversations we talked 9 00:00:28,550 --> 00:00:26,240 about women we've talked about 10 00:00:30,410 --> 00:00:28,560 conversations whether we've in plenty 11 00:00:33,950 --> 00:00:30,420 times we've been we've taken some long 12 00:00:35,870 --> 00:00:33,960 drives I mean whether we in traffic but 13 00:00:41,930 --> 00:00:35,880 we're just driving for a couple hours 14 00:00:44,660 --> 00:00:41,940 you know and we talked bunch of men in 15 00:00:51,049 --> 00:00:44,670 the car and we would talk about women 16 00:00:52,930 --> 00:00:51,059 that that he found very attractive even 17 00:00:57,049 --> 00:00:52,940 times I remember times particular time 18 00:00:59,060 --> 00:00:57,059 when we was in DC and I was driving and 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:00:59,070 he's looking up the window and he said 20 00:01:03,410 --> 00:01:01,410 oh why he said he's something like well 21 00:01:05,299 --> 00:01:03,420 she's beautiful and I looked over there 22 00:01:07,070 --> 00:01:05,309 was a woman standing on the corner and 23 00:01:09,469 --> 00:01:07,080 you know she's trying to cross the 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:09,479 street and I was like you want to meet 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:13,650 her and he got shined like no no no but 26 00:01:19,219 --> 00:01:17,610 little did he know I made a u-turn and I 27 00:01:21,620 --> 00:01:19,229 seen which way the woman was walking and 28 00:01:23,690 --> 00:01:21,630 I drove back up the street and I just 29 00:01:26,330 --> 00:01:23,700 put without him knowing I just pulled 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:26,340 over I put the fact the passenger window 31 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:29,250 down on the front seat I introduced 32 00:01:32,899 --> 00:01:31,140 myself to the woman I was told that how 33 00:01:34,969 --> 00:01:32,909 you doing I'm sorry to bother you but 34 00:01:36,410 --> 00:01:34,979 I'm doing a personal security detail for 35 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:36,420 a high-profile celebrity and it would 36 00:01:39,530 --> 00:01:37,170 love to meet you 37 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:39,540 and she's just happy to say she said 38 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:41,070 what is it like you got Michael Jackson 39 00:01:45,380 --> 00:01:43,380 back there I was like oh wow it was so 40 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:45,390 surprising that she said my nose accent 41 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:48,960 but anyway I put the window down and he 42 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:51,810 was even a little flabbergasted that I 43 00:01:56,330 --> 00:01:54,240 even did that and in spews himself and 44 00:01:58,670 --> 00:01:56,340 they talked for a minute they just 45 00:02:00,050 --> 00:01:58,680 talked a little bit and he's like oh my 46 00:02:03,020 --> 00:02:00,060 god I didn't know he was gonna do this 47 00:02:06,530 --> 00:02:03,030 and they actually she he I remember he 48 00:02:10,669 --> 00:02:06,540 asked her where was she from she was a 49 00:02:13,610 --> 00:02:10,679 student back up back up some student at 50 00:02:15,979 --> 00:02:13,620 a Georgetown University 51 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:15,989 and and she said well you want to take 52 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:17,310 my number he said no he said well I 53 00:02:21,380 --> 00:02:19,440 don't have a pen so I said I got it so 54 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:21,390 I'll take it and I took the number I 55 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:23,220 know they talked a couple of times but 56 00:02:27,770 --> 00:02:25,440 after seeing her again I don't think 57 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:27,780 that happened not on my watch but we've 58 00:02:33,559 --> 00:02:30,560 we've had enough conversations to know 59 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:33,569 he's in the women bottom line I mean I 60 00:02:42,559 --> 00:02:39,120 would know okay but bill for a security 61 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:42,569 guard of a pop star single celebrity for 62 00:02:47,180 --> 00:02:44,970 two and a half years that's a pretty 63 00:02:48,890 --> 00:02:47,190 light story where's all the crazy 64 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:48,900 stories about him hooking up with chicks 65 00:02:51,949 --> 00:02:50,730 late at night and scoring this girl and 66 00:02:59,410 --> 00:02:51,959 this and then threesomes of this and 67 00:03:04,839 --> 00:03:03,740 sexual actions if any out there I would 68 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:04,849 never do that 69 00:03:09,199 --> 00:03:07,200 how about how about one more story 70 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:09,209 that's a little bit more convincing than 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:16,170 that one I mean are you aware of him 72 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:18,810 hooking up with with a girl during those 73 00:03:24,050 --> 00:03:21,530 a woman during this two and a half years 74 00:03:25,490 --> 00:03:24,060 I'm aware of him spending time with 75 00:03:26,620 --> 00:03:25,500 women that what he did with these women 76 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:26,630 is a different story 77 00:03:32,150 --> 00:03:29,970 I'm aware of that he's been time with 78 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:32,160 two particular women but what he did 79 00:03:38,030 --> 00:03:35,370 with them and he spent time mm-hmm 80 00:03:39,979 --> 00:03:38,040 what kind of time what they did that's 81 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:39,989 nothing you tell when you say time are 82 00:03:45,710 --> 00:03:43,769 we talking about in his bedroom no not 83 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:45,720 in his bedroom he didn't take women to 84 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:48,720 his house with children where so where 85 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:50,489 was this and by the way I know maybe 86 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:52,410 you're reluctant to share this detail 87 00:03:58,780 --> 00:03:54,329 but this is what you would talk sculp 88 00:04:01,370 --> 00:03:58,790 Ettore evidence because if you're into 89 00:04:02,750 --> 00:04:01,380 this Michael Jasmine's into women we 90 00:04:04,339 --> 00:04:02,760 ought to understand something understand 91 00:04:08,059 --> 00:04:04,349 look son about bill Whitfield 92 00:04:10,930 --> 00:04:08,069 I didn't write my book to prove that 93 00:04:14,059 --> 00:04:10,940 book was not written to prove something 94 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:14,069 it really was I just want to share my 95 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:16,799 story and I've had people tell me well 96 00:04:22,969 --> 00:04:18,570 bill we don't believe that I said okay 97 00:04:24,469 --> 00:04:22,979 you don't have to because I'm not one to 98 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:24,479 try to prove something somebody that's 99 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:26,130 just I didn't write my book for that if 100 00:04:31,580 --> 00:04:27,450 I tell people that 101 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:31,590 I know Michael Jackson did not was not 102 00:04:36,410 --> 00:04:32,730 the type of guy to molest children 103 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:36,420 people don't believe that okay I tell 104 00:04:40,010 --> 00:04:37,770 people that Michael Jackson was into 105 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:40,020 women and they say they don't believe it 106 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:42,570 I say okay I'm not trying to prove 107 00:04:46,460 --> 00:04:44,850 nothing okay 108 00:04:48,350 --> 00:04:46,470 well but you're coming out very strongly 109 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:48,360 bill you're not just telling a story 110 00:04:52,010 --> 00:04:50,400 from two-and-a-half years of your of 111 00:04:53,630 --> 00:04:52,020 your time with Michael and letting that 112 00:04:55,490 --> 00:04:53,640 stand for itself 113 00:04:58,580 --> 00:04:55,500 you are affirmatively coming out and 114 00:04:59,390 --> 00:04:58,590 saying these two guys are lying and I 115 00:05:05,510 --> 00:04:59,400 know they're lying 116 00:05:07,730 --> 00:05:05,520 oh yeah okay oh yeah so okay and some 117 00:05:09,170 --> 00:05:07,740 people again ask how do I know I'll 118 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:09,180 speak what I know 119 00:05:13,190 --> 00:05:12,930 but again I'm not you know I can repeat 120 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:13,200 it 121 00:05:17,690 --> 00:05:16,110 their lies because I can talk about what 122 00:05:20,030 --> 00:05:17,700 they're lying about because no they're 123 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:20,040 lying the first time plain is again I'm 124 00:05:24,290 --> 00:05:22,560 asking where and he pitches that your